My BIG Decision and Kettlebell Conditioning Workout | Free Home Workout Videos

by Marianne  - June 12, 2012

Hi everyone,

What a time of it I had last week! I don’t know what happened, but major fatigue came out of nowhere and I had ZERO energy to train and I could bearly get out of bed to go to work! To make matters worse, I had 3 night shifts to do in a row, train clients both Online and Offline and make time to work on other GGS-related projects – all in the space of 4 days!

The good thing is that this has help me arrive at a very important decision, one I have been somewhat afraid to make. And it’s scary even for me to mention it here as it kind of makes it very final; but for the past year, I have not been happy in my nursing job.  I LOVE being a nurse, but the circumstances are not what they should be to allow for optimal nursing and I do not have the time with each patient I would like in order to make a TRUE difference to their care, bar covering the essentials. For me, that is not enough! Also, I am becoming more and more disenchanted by focusing on sickness, symptoms, medications and people’s gravitation towards the “sick role” once they step through the hospital walls.  I have heard such a mind-set being branded “Pajamaitis”.  I cannot fix this! To make matters worse, it seems many staff in the health service do nothing but complain – and I can’t be around this anymore … I want to be making a difference to people’s HEALTH and WELL-BEING! It is such an irony that this cannot be done as a nurse in an acute care setting, because everyone is “sick”.  So what is my big decision??

I am applying for a career break to explore my fitness calling.  For the past 2 and a half years I have lead a double life; one in which I nurse the sick, and another where I nurture the health-seekers to become more healthy and take ownership of their fitness and well-being. Guess which one has the highest success?? And the great thing is that what I do here should impact positively on, as a friend put it, the “sickness industry” – as more people reduce many risk factors for potential diseases such as cardiovascular disorders, Type 2 Diabetes, Obesity-related diseases, osteoporosis (reducing future admissions to hospital with fractures, especially in the over 60’s), immune diseases, arthritic conditions AND MANY MORE!

It’s the same principle I am applying to the rest of my life. Focus on what you want to happen, not what you don’t want. So, by focusing my energy on HEALTH rather than SICKNESS, I help people create healthier lives and all the wonderful things that come of that.  It’s not that I no longer care about sick people, of course I do – but I need to follow what I love to do more and follow my passion . When you do that, you never have to work a day in your life 🙂

When everything is pointing towards making this break, I would regret not putting my full effort into it. Right now, I feel I am unable to do that due to my ONLY tie here – Nursing! As for where I will base myself, in relation to my fitness career, that has yet to be decided.  But something inside me is drawing me to San Diego! I have no idea why, as I have never been there, but I am planning a visit there in September and will suss it out as I go 🙂  This plan is subject to change of course, but it’s been such a strong desire for a while now, I cannot ignore it any more!

Now that I have that update out of the way I want to direct you to a couple of articles from last week that I contributed to. They were shared on Facebook and Twitter, but I know some of you do not have accounts in Social Media, so I will link to them here:

My Journey out of the Vortex ~ by Yours Truly

What do you eat? ~ by Jen Comas Keck (with lots of contributions, include one from moi)

Now on with business

The Workout

After a 4 days break from training, this was my workout to get started. Two rounds of only 10 exercises LOL!

Set your Gymboss Interval Timer for 10 cycles of 15 seconds rest and 45 seconds effort (I recommend a longer break between rounds), and complete 2 – 3 rounds of the following (my reps per exercise and weights used are in brackets as always):

  1. Goblet Squat (20kg) (20, 16)
  2. Vertical Pull/Swing Burpee (20kg) (11, 10)
  3. Renegade Row (2 x 16kg) (18, 17)
  4. Two-Handed Swing (20kg) (32, 32) – I need to progress
  5. Spiderman Push Ups (16, 15) – this annoyed my SI a bit)
  6. Stand-Kneel-Stand (right) (16kg) (14, 14) – also felt this in SIJ
  7. S-K-S (left) (16kg) (14, 13)
  8. Weighted Side to Side Step Overs (6kg) (44, 41) – SIJ 🙁
  9. Burpees (11, 11)
  10. Alternating KB Swing (20kg) (30, 30)

It seems that ANY unilateral exercises annoy my SIJ/back issue. So I need to stick to Bilateral stuff for a while longer – which is PANTS, because I miss my reverse lunges 🙁 🙁 🙁

As you can see, I did 2 rounds only, but this was enough for me, because I was super tired again!

Hope you enjoy the workout.

Remember that I am now offering a variety of great Training Services both Online and Offline.  For further info, check the following link:  Training Services.


PS – I am by no means discrediting or belittling the work done by the nursing and medical professions, as we do indeed need them. However, I feel a draw to do something else now, and I am very grateful that I have my nursing experience. Without it, I would never have developed my skills in communication, teamwork and many other things.  I am also so grateful to have such a bank of humorous, encouraging, inspiring and proud memories and stories to hold on to.  Let’s see how it all pans out 🙂


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  1. Hi, Marianne! Congrats on your big decision and GOOD LUCK in your new journey!;)
    Have a question: sometimes, after I do Vertical Pull/Swing during my workouts, I get a bruise on my forearm. Is this because I do it incorrectly, or it just happens sometimes (in fact I`ve read somewhere that girls should be prepared to get bruised when they decide working out with KBs)?

  2. Good for you on making that decision. I did a similar thing last month. I quit my job and set up my own consultancy firm so that I can have more time to exercise, travel and do all the things I want to do. I am so much happier now and I’m sure you will be too.

    You look amazing by the way. I’m aiming for a nice toned look like yours. 🙂

  3. Hi Marianne, I just wanted to say I am really exited for you. I emigrated to Scotland and then to Canada (please come see us in BC) and while it is a challenge, it is really worth it.
    I am sure you will have a blast doing something you are meant to do.
    I always thought you were such an inspiration and I’m sure you’ll do well.

    As for the workout, I really enjoyed it! I did 2 rounds followed by some lifting on my home gym. I was a sweaty but happy mess by the end of it 🙂
    I loved it so much I loved it so much I blogged about it

    And your spiderman push up are amazing!

  4. Thank you for inspiring me once again. I too left my position from an office setting to be my fiance’s assistant trainer in his gym. I did that for a year and now I am now a full time KB instructor back home. Don’t give up on a dream follow your heart 🙂 🙂 Cheers Your doing the right thing 🙂

  5. Ah…I am a little jealous! 🙂 My job is in education and lately the politics here in BC have made the job more unpleasant. Unfortunately, I have no training or education in fitness to fall back on. Perhaps one day I will get a chance to do a degree in kinesiology or get educated in strength and conditioning so that I can change careers too.

    I am excited for you though, at the direction your life is taking…I wish you all the best!

    P.S. Today’s workout was tough (again!) – 3 rounds of sweatiness! 🙂

    Surrey, BC Canada

    1. Hey Wendy, something struck me from your comment that I recognise from my “old” self – the “one day” mentality. “One day” sets your mind in future happiness in your dreams. The future never comes, it will always remain in the future until you presently take the bull by the horns. YES there is fear, and YES there is doubt, but motor past these little thorns, because if you feel it deep down that it’s right for you – do it! Do it NOW 🙂

      You’ve given me an idea for a blog post – thanks 😀 x

  6. Just want to leave a message now, after following your blog for a longer time quietly.
    I think this decision was not easy, for sure, but after losing your old life it is really a fortune (and a piece of hard work) that you found the strength for a new one inside yourself.
    I wish you all best!

  7. Marianne
    A ship in the harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for. Proverb
    Taking risks, venturing out of our comfort zone is a factor to live the live that you are currently only dreaming of. If you don’t move beyond where you are today then you will never be more or have more.

      1. The Titantic was safe in Belfast. Just saying.

        Contreras moved halfway around the world. Hated it. Ended up moving back home to be close to family. Just saying.

        1. Well, if it doesn’t work out, I can sail back to Belfast, and my nursing job will be here if I need it in the next 2 years. I certainly won’t base my decisions on how other people coped; it obviously was not part of his dream to living in NZ – he wanted his Phd – which he is still getting. Only he realised he doesn’t need to live away. What I have realised is that I don’t want to stay here … I want to explore 😀

          1. Good for you! I was a bit nervous coming to Canada for a couple of years to train…but I’ve loved it! You’re the perfect candidate for adventure and it’s a great time in your life from what I can tell. People who want to stay at home can stay at home.

  8. That’s great news Marianne, San Deigo is perfect for you and you’ll be nice and tanned in no time. =0)

    I’m so happy for you!

    It’s so awesome to make a new start on your terms, may you find nothing but success on your new journey!

  9. Hey,

    Just reading your latest post about the BIG decision. Sounds awesome. As a British National who recently moved to San Diego, I can tell you its a fantastic place to be. And people in Cali are far more into living healthy than other parts of the US.

    I gotta say too, this is one of the best, if not THE best site for Kettlebell info. Informative, inspiring and personable. I have been reading a ton of KB info over the last few weeks. I am 8 weeks into the biggest health drive of my life and have lost 23lb in the last 6 weeks. My first KB arrived yesterday and I am excited to try it tonight. ( I actually tried a couple of exercises early this morning to get an idea and I can already tell that everything I have read will come to fruition).

    Anyway. Great job on the site…keep up the awesome work because we all love it and look at it everyday! And if you ever get to San Diego, you wont regret it!

    Yet to dig through your entire site, but getting there!



    1. Thanks J,

      I’m excited for you and your new journey too. The KB arriving, the exciting new workouts 🙂 Let us all know how you progress!

      You will see my journey perfectly illustrated as you sift through the site … it’s like a perfect timeline of my journey 🙂

  10. “…I need to follow what I love to do more and follow my passion. When you do that, you never have to work a day in your life.”
    WOW! That was a great line that you wrote. When I read that I almost wanted to cry (in a good way) because it really hit home. I would imagine A LOT of people reading that would suddenly be having a ‘light bulb’ moment like I am now. Not letting fear hold me back is something I am working on now. I don’t hate my job, but it is no longer MY passion & feels more like ‘work’ these days. Hopefully, one day I will be able to move on & pursue other career goals, too. Thank you for being a WONDERFUL inspiration (and for the kick-ass workouts)! I wish you all the best & pray for your success.

    BTW, I am a California girl & San Diego is AWESOME!!! I am about 2 hours away from there & visit every summer with my family. Never met anyone who went there & didn’t like it…practically perfect weather 365 days a year.

  11. I’ve recently incorporated reiki in to my life style and learned about my own energy and how it is effected and how it effects others.

    Unfortunately, in the world of medicine there is a lot of negativity energy and whether we, as individuals, are aware that, it effects us greatly. If you didn’t have the escape of a healthy lifestyle I am positive you’d be in a much worse situation.

    The decision was simple and easy and you’ll get great rewards for focusing on it…the biggest one being a life surrounded by positive energy all the time that will only allow you to grow.

    In short…great decision. I recently had to spend time in the hospital and it was a horrible, negative, and depressing experience.

  12. This is great news. I can only imagine what you will accomplish once you apply yourself full time. I seriously encourage you to take the plunge.
    Please keep us posted on your progress. I think you will love San Diego.

  13. I’M SO EXCITED FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!! My friend just posted a photo on FB that says “The moment you choose to do what you really want to do, it’s a different kind of life.” I’m so excited for the journey your life is now on and I can’t wait to see what happens next!!!! 😀

  14. Thats awesome girl! Besides you can always get another nursing job if you wanted to…by that I mean there is no shortage of nursing jobs…I think you will be a success at whatever you helps if you love it! San Diego is great..warm weather, good food!!! 😎

  15. I was wondering when this was coming. Not surprised to read this post at all. From personal experience I know it can be scary to leave your home and your career. On the plane you may even have a brief moment of “What did I just do?!!” But as the saying goes, “Nothing ventured, nothing gained!”

  16. Hi everyone,

    All I can say is WOW! THANK YOU all for your massive show of support! Although I am only in the early stages of putting my plan in motion, I have never been more sure of it being the right course of action, than now!

    I will try to respond to your comments personally, but I wanted you all to know that I have read every single one!

    I was praying for a sign that I was doing the right thing … could it BE any clearer than this?? 😀

    Cheers everyone …

    … and DON’T FORGET THE WORKOUT – you may all want to act like you were “distracted” by my update, therefore making you “miss” the workout section … I’m on to you!



  17. Marianne,

    This is great news!You are at a perfect point in your life to make a change like this! You won’t regret it… you will be so happy.

    As a physical therapist, I was dealing with the same feelings toward healthcare, and last October I left my “steady job” and went out into private practice, so that I could treat patients the way I would want to be treated. I wrote about it here:

    I have never been happier – I love what I do again (whereas I was feeling burned out before), and I have had so many amazing opportunities. I believe you will find the same to be true. And, your nursing background puts you in a unique position to truly understand the “why” behind the “how” of training clients.

    San Diego will be awesome! Look up my friend Clifton Harski when you get there – he recently moved back to SD, and is getting his own training business off the ground. He’s a great person to know (if you don’t already).

    All the best!


    1. Thank you Ann! And cheers for pointing me towards Clifton too 🙂

      I’m glad you are now enjoying your work the way you want to work. That is such a huge factor! I will certainly read your post; I bookmarked it for later.


  18. Hi Marianne
    great posting. I wish you all the luck in the world with your new venture, but somehow I don’t think you will be needing luck as I have absolutely no doubt that you will succeed as I know the amazing positive impact that you and the other GGS ladies have had on me!

  19. Very nice indeed to hear that you are in touch with and following your intuition. I’m sure there are many like myself that follow your blog and video’s who aren’t surprised at all to hear of your decision.

  20. Good luck ! I can fully understand the impact that constant negativity can have on you I changed careers at 33 it wasn’t easy but worked out well

  21. Well done! I’m really not surprised. Unfortunately, it will be to the detriment of the NHS and the UK (especially if you move). Anyway, good luck. I know you’ll be successfull in you new career.


  22. Marianne. Good for you. This sounds like a major move and in the right direction. Having been through treatment to rid my body of cancer, I know hospitals and have an idea about the Mind of the Unwell (patient) in addition to the Treat the Disease, Not the Person (doctors and nurses). I hated sitting in the waiting room and hearing people compare treatment and drug options and I couldn’t stand being treated as cancer either. I am glad to move away from that and I could see where you would want to as well. Ugh. You are truly an inspiration. Don’t hesitate to call if traveling through NYC!

  23. Congrats on reaching a decision that I don’t think you will regret-in fact I’d say you feel mighty relieved. So well done

  24. Hi!
    Thanks for sharing. We all have descisions we dread to make, and it’s so great to read stories like yours. Good luck with everything!

    And the workout? Seems kind of easy (you do it so stylish) but I know that’s NOT the case. I didn’t try it, but I can tell. How do you make it seem so easy, rowing with those 16 kg kb’s!? I swing one 12 kg kb, wouldn’t dare to try it like rows. 🙂

  25. Congrats & good luck, Marianne! I can only imagine how liberating it is to make such a decision. I have a question about the workout…can you suggest an alternate exercise to replace the weighted side to side step overs? I don’t have a step but would like to do something else instead of skipping that altogether. Thanks!

  26. Best wishes and good luck with your decision. You have already had a very positive impact on many people with this blog.

  27. I’ve wondered when you were going to make this call. I truely believe that you will make it successfully in the health/fitness field anywhere you go!

    Although I am not a nurse or in any medical field, I can imagine the negativity that surrounds someone in that field and I admire those who can handle that on a daily basis. I know I could not. Negativity drives me bonkers! (Not saying that I don’t complain from time to time, but I try not to.) Just having those thoughts and worries on your mind..thinking about leaving the nursing field and pursuing your passion is enough to weigh down the mind and tire you out! So now that you’ve said it, hopefully you’ll perk up and believe that this is it.. the new beginning… a breath of fresh air!

    We just have to believe that we are in the place we are at this time in our life for a reason. And if we are at the crossroads, that we take the path our heart leads us down. We would never know what could be if we don’t venture out! So I wish you much success as you travel down your new path and hope you find much health,happiness and success!!

    Jealous of your spiderman pushups btw!!!!!

  28. Marianne, I’m so excited for you! That is a wonderful decision and you are very insightful to realize what is holding you back, especially when it’s your livelihood!
    Although I think you should check out Colorado while you’re visiting the States 🙂 It’s the fittest state in the nation!! 😉
    Plus! I would LOVE to be able to train with you, cause I think you’re fantastic!

    1. Awesome Roni! I am pretty sure there will be plenty of touring with GGS. We are available to book for workshops and seminars btw. I intend on traveling quite a bit to make the most of my opportunities 🙂

      Thank you!

  29. Good for you Marianne, that is fabulous! Had a similar experience as a Physio… Have now got a practice with strength training classes. I got sick of fixing what was broken and wanted clients to have a long term preventative.

    All the best!

  30. Hi Marianne,
    Go for what is in your heart…someone once said to me that you get one life and there is no rehersal just the one take and you shouldn’t be afraid of taking a chance on happiness.
    Making such a momentus decision is never easy and change is a scary country but i know from personal experience that it is also very very liberating…i commend your braveness and wish you luck and happiness in what will become your new chapter.x

  31. Wow! What a courageous decision, Marianne! I am truly in awe, but I think you are doing the right thing. You are such a terrific role model & so successful at what you have been doing. I think that you will look back later & be glad that you followed your passion for health & fitness. Through these videos, you are helping people all over the world. In the USA, you will better be able to support yourself with this career path. I’d love to meet you some day. Remember–you’ve always got a place to stay when you visit Greenville, SC. This is also a fantastic place to live & work. Best wishes for success in the future!

  32. Good for you! And seriously go for it! As a southern California transplant, I totally understand why one would be drawn to San Diego (and checkout Oceanside too!)…it’s pretty much the perfect climate all year along.

    The journey from the familiar to a new chapter of life is never easy, but it sure is worth it in every way.

    So go for it!!!

  33. Great for you, it takes a lot of courage to follow your heart!! I’m sure you will find what you are looking for. You have become such an inspiration to me 🙂

  34. Go for it girl, I am sure you do the right thing. I think the complaining bug has struck some other industries as well *sigh* and I have to find out how to work around that…
    All the best!

  35. Hi Marianne,

    I think this is a great plan and I am sure it’ll bring you some new very interesting opportunities. You are a very capable, determined and smart girl and I am sure you’ll make the most of this new, exciting experience.

    Regarding this video, great form especially in those renegade rows (with 16 kg in each hand!) and those superman pushups!


  36. I am so extremely happy for you Marianne!!! Pursue your dreams!!! I can’t see you come back from California to be honest! Delighted for you :-))) Great move!!! Fingers crossed and all the best!!!

  37. I could have written much of this post a couple years ago. I’m an RN too and got completely burned out on dealing with sickness day in and day out. I decided I wanted to focus my knowledge and efforts on keeping people healthy instead of taking care of them when they’re sick. “Healthcare” isn’t HEALTHcare. It’s sickcare, and much more importance needs to be placed on keeping people healthy. I’m now halfway through my masters in kinesiology and could not be happier. I don’t miss nursing at all and I’m so excited to see where my new education will take me in the next couple of years. Good luck to you!

  38. I’m very happy for you! I could see this decision coming and noticed it has been sapping your strength and messing with your health. I wouldn’t be suprised if your SI cleared up magically. Now you are on your way to bigger and better things!! All the Best to you!!!
    I’m even relieved for

  39. I quit my corporate day job this past year to pursue my fitness career full time, and I’ve never looked back.

    I’m excited for you, and I know that you’ll love it.

    I’m really looking forward to hearing it all unfold.

    Congratulations on this decision, and good luck!

  40. Congrats on your decision Marianne! I just made the same choice about 3 months ago. I’ve been working in the animation/vfx industry and it’s been sapping all my energy. Crazy long and unexpected hours, and sitting all day. Felt like my life was passing me by.

    Fitness has been a huge passion of mine for the last 11 years, so I decided to change my life. Photography is another. It’s very scary changing careers, especially if you are living on your own. Just follow your heart! You and only you know what’s best for you.

    Come to Toronto!!! It’s a very health oriented city and you will have no problem finding clients. And we love the Irish!!!!!

  41. Wow, well good for you!

    As I think I’ve told you, my Mum was a doctor, from the old school, where they got to know patients rather than assailing them with a barrage of tests. I am sure she would find the current state of the industry to be appalling — in the US at least, it seems totally preoccupied with making patients customers for life. It doesn’t help that patients don’t want to take responsibility for their health by being proactive. There is still a predominant impression that there is a pill to cure everything. So those types of people will go on eating crappy food and then getting type 2 diabetes, heart disease, etc.

    Its ironic that at the same time, there is a huge health movement of people who realize that health is a lifestyle choice.

    Much like the politics of this country, there is a huge divide between these two groups. I would venture that anyone who is proactive about their health is probably proactive in most aspects of their lives. Sitting and wallowing and complaining is not in harmony with such a lifestyle. I am not surprised that it finally got to you.

    Of course now, you are again leaping into an unknown. But they say, those who fail to risk, fail to make great accomplishments. You have to risk to fly!

    San Diego is perhaps almost an ideal place — great weather year round, the ocean and lots of outdoor activities. It is close to the border, which is a mixed blessing. The only drawback is that it is California, which has tremendous financial problems and high taxes. There are some great healers there… among them, Peter Egoscue, who I have mentioned many times.

    AND, maybe we get to have you here in the US! If you want to make a mark, I am sure the US is the best place to do it. You’ll have lots of friends to visit as you make your choice. Yay!

    ~ Gillian

    1. I totally agree Gillian about the state of mind that is the “sickness industry”. If we keep people sick then there are still those who profit from it. I want to be in a job that is what a health-provider should do. I feel that nurses, with helping people in their hearts, are somewhat wasted in a broken system and a broken culture. But both need to co-exist for a time to allow “us” all to evolve and grow – learning new and better ways to be healthy and happy! Not everyone will be on the same path all at once, but as each of us find ours, we must follow it. It is my turn to take a new road.

      We will see where it goes 🙂 Either way, you’re right, it’s EXCITING!!

      Thank you!

  42. Wow….I take my hat off to you.

    Being a fellow nurse (Trauma & Orthopaedics) I can relate to everything you are saying. It is such a difficult time to be a Staff Nurse. The circumstances we face every single day are draining, disheartening and quite honestly frightening. Whilst I am a beginner at Kettlebells (and thanks to you today my legs are flipping killing me after embarking on one of your sessions on here) I have been an avid fitness fanatic for probably five years now, you following your dream of becoming involved in fitness is amazing and I do not see it as a failure to your degree/diploma,nor are you abandoning your patients. What you are doing is potentially saving some from the diseases you listed above. I see it as an absolutely brave but worthwhile step. I wish you well in your future career. The scared stay put, the brave switch it up and move on. I am hoping to do the same in a year or so’s time and leave the NHS to embark on my own business venture. Good luck and keep up the free routines please ;-p x

    1. So, I’m not the only one plotting their escape from the NHS? =) Haha, J/K! Good for you Rachel! If there’s something else out there calling your skills, then follow it. I wish you all the very best success with what ever that venture is 🙂

  43. I am so so super stoked for you! As soon as I saw the title of this post I knew what you were going to say. Following your passion is the ONLY way to live this life. You CAN have it all! Just depends on your definition of “all” I suppose. People learn to live within their perceived limits and then spend the rest of their life complaining about them when in reality they have the power to change what they do not want/like and move towards the positive!

    Congrats to you on taking this huge step! I am so proud to consider you a friend (even if we have never actually met in person).


  44. Hello,
    Good for you for having the courage to take a break from nursing, I have been an RN here in Canada for many years, and am a mother of three grown children. I continue to work full time as a nursing coordinator in a mental health facility. As someone committed to fitness and health, I believe nursing is a beautiful fit, but can see where you are hitting the wall, so to speak. I just read the book by American nurse academic Angela Barron McBride. Please do google her and try and get your hands on the book, it is wonderful for helping get your ideas together re your career, just wish I had had access to it years ago. Do yourself a favour, it is called The Growth and Development of Nurse Leaders (as you know, we are all leaders!) you should be able to get it through your hospital library. Love your workouts, keep at it, and best wishes!!

  45. Congratulations Marianne! That actually sounds like a great plan. I’m in radiology so can be a little sheltered at times but am mainly sheltered because I’m training in Canada at the moment. I’m dreading going back to the Irish healthcare system or the NHS. Talk about negative energy sapping all your spirit!
    Best of luck in the new endeavour 🙂

  46. I can totally understand how tough a decision this was, but “everything happens for a reason”. I think I speak for all of us when I say you’re making the right choice, and you’ve definitely found your calling! There’s no joy being in a position you’re not happy in.

    I’m really happy for you and wish you all the best!

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